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TheRagingLemon
(@theraginglemon)
Reputable Member Customer

So yeah, I'm reporting a staff member. I don't really dislike this staff member or anything, but it's just unfair. Dr. Kolibob, has been spawning in tier 4 lockers, modded weapons to shoot at other people with, and spawns in modded vehicles for others. He's been getting carried away with his commands, and won't even help the others that own shops in our safezone. He's been spawning in Lamborghinis, Warthogs, Sport cars, and Military attack helicopters. I do think it's unfair as he is allowing me and others to use them and doing shit with them. Such as driving them around and blowing up other vehicles. He even left it around for someone else to take as seen here.  I don't know why he would just leave it around for other people to take, but it's kind of unfair when other people get it and some people don't. I really don't understand why he would do this. Even if he did make the safezone and destroy direfall, I still think that giving vehicles and modded weapons to other people is really unfair. Can someone please do something about this? He even spawned in a Warthog and flew over Ontario shooting at civilians and people in or out of the safezone. 

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Topic starter Posted : 13/09/2017 9:28 pm
TheRagingLemon
(@theraginglemon)
Reputable Member Customer

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Topic starter Posted : 13/09/2017 9:37 pm
MrRawr
(@mrrawr)
Noble Member

/ban

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Posted : 13/09/2017 10:45 pm
Kolibob
(@kolibob)
Honorable Member

Let's take this exactly how you've said it, in a textualist manner. I feel very comfortable with all situations you've listed, we'll start with objective arguments, and then end off on why you've claimed such things (analyzing you):

1. "Dr. Kolibob, has been spawning in tier 4 lockers, modded weapons to shoot at other people with, and spawns in modded vehicles for others"

- I have not spawned in any T4 locker, realistically speaking, however, I've spawned in one for the pharmaceutical part of the hospital, however it didn't seem to fit in with the theme nor the texture, so I went ahead and chose a T2 instead (please remember this claim for further reference);

- While it is true I've spawned around 8-10 modded weapons (not including the notorious builder-destroyer-only admin gun), out of which only 0 remain on the server - I used to have a shotgun put in under my desk, which I only used once on a player attempting to shoot people from the Safezone itself (the other weapons would be two Bazookas for abolishing Direfall, one for myselfone for Lemon - which we destroyed after finishing the job). As for the excessive claim stating that I spawn in things to kill people, is that logical? Does it seem logical to you? I've been role-playing as a Doctor on-the-field, I carry an Avenger and a Swiss knife with me (current inventory):

- It is true that I've spawned in modded vehicle(s) for myself - the count would be 3-4. I've first spawned in a Warhawk, a two seater, which after about two minutes of flying people around in it, I've destroyed it; the second spawn would be a UH helicopter to transverse Direfall quicker (for myself) to set the region positioning (to finally get rid of that piece of hell); the third spawn would be, if you'd consider it one, a tank, specifically an Abrams - I was interested in seeing whether or not it'd fit into the Hospital entrance (thankfully, it does not!); the final spawn(s) would be a Lamborghini and a Mustang, one for myself & one for Lemon, to quickly get back to the Safezone - like all the other vehicles I've spawned in, I've destroyed them.

I have no reason to spawn in things, especially modded ones, on CAN+, since normally no modded stuff even spawns there. However, I do not argue the fact that I have spawned in vanilla vehicles, because I did - these would be the ambulance & the Coaster for the Hospital. The only things that I've spawned in and was unable to destroy (one of the modded guns) were the guns that Lemon picked off my private room and stored in a cabinet - I have since destroyed it.

2. "He's been getting carried away with his commands, and won't even help the others that own shops in our safezone."

- This couldn't be further from the truth. In fact, I respond to all reports appropriately and do not take sides. I investigate each in-game deport with direness of the players in mind - I spy the alleged KoS'er, see his interactions, and set myself up nearby to test if he is, indeed, a recurring case of KoS (this ensured impartiality). If he's referring to stuff like spawning in items, the only items I use from the spawned in ones would be the constructional buildings (such as the safezone we've made) and the medicine + clothing I use for RP purposes (which Lemon also has a pair of).

- This is a claim that is 100% true - I refuse to spawn in lockers and rifle racks for those that have already been lucky enough to get one of the exclusive spots on a server - a safe zone. While this is, indeed, D4NKING policy, I choose not to follow his policy. For the sole reason that Dunkertown's about 5x bigger than our safezone, therefore it isn't as exclusive to get an opening there. I also would like players to feel like they've earned the spot, and not that they can rely too much on support - this is post-apoc roleplay.

3. "He's been spawning in Lamborghinis, Warthogs, Sport cars, and Military attack helicopters"

- Already disproven in point 1 - at this point you're repeating things to make your argument shine.

4. "I do think it's unfair as he is allowing me and others to use them and doing shit with them."

- Others? Who's "others" you're speaking about? You're the sole person I had trust in to handle items, such as the constructional privileges I've given you. Of course, unless you're implying that I'm unfair that I'm trusting you with this - in which case, you'd only be proving that you're not trust-worthy, which would be ironic and hilarious (which it is, because that's what you've implied).

5. "Such as driving them around and blowing up other vehicles. He even left it around for someone else to take as seen here... (don't know why he would just leave it around for other people to take, but it's kind of unfair when other people get it and some people don't)."

- I have blown up zero vehicles, other than my own vehicles (as stated in the first part), to make sure that there's no claim of abuse. I have also left no vehicle around - however, if I did, I must apologize. But as far as I know, the only vehicle that has been stolen which has also been spawned in would be my red car, which I was told by the alleged "grand theft'er" that you gave it to him - this was a red-light for me, I should've stopped trusting you with stuff, yet I didn't. Lesson learned.

- The in-between parenthesis means that the claim has already been abolished by one of the arguments above.

6. "Even if he did make the safezone and destroy direfall, I still think that giving vehicles and modded weapons to other people is really unfair. Can someone please do something about this? He even spawned in a Warthog and flew over Ontario shooting at civilians and people in or out of the safezone."

- This is the moment that you've truly messed up in front of me. I was blind-sided by your staff application, by your friendly behavior to other people, by your words. However, I should've taken note from David himself and the fact that you stole from them, as well. I didn't because I had hope - again, lesson learned.

- For the underlined parts, I can't believe the amount of lying you could put in this. The only thing I've shot with my plane would be you, dear friend. You even said how good my aim is and we had a nice banter - this while you were in the safezone and prepared to get shot at. You're turning tables - and I'll be more than happy to explain why in just a second.

- Again, Nylex himself can check logs and see that no person holds a modded weapon or a modded vehicle. And if they do, it would be an accidental mistake done by somebody, where I'll be more than glad to get the weapon they hold.

7. I strongly believe that you've been a member longer than I've been, you have a reputation for overzealous attitude. You're turning the mirror towards me because you can't face the fact that I didn't do as you liked, the fact that I've worked day after day on this forum and in-game to be accepted by Nylex as a moderator, while you've been here for longer. Lemon, I was +1'ing your application, but after taking off the blindfold, I truly see you for what a manipulating hypocrite you are. Bending words, bending actions, bending anything just so they work for you, eh?

TL;DR:

All things stated by him are either in constant fallacies, such as constant exaggerations and misinterpretation of one's actions so they work in his favor (or even straight up lies) - why?, because he believes that if one doesn't abide him, or that one doesn't continuously massage his feet, then one needs to get the hell out.

P.S.: You can still be one of the administrators of "The Hospital" safezone. But please limit your interactions with me as much as possible.

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Posted : 13/09/2017 11:07 pm
Kolibob
(@kolibob)
Honorable Member

Does this say anything to you, Lemon?

"(...) were the guns that Lemon picked off my private room and stored in a cabinet - I have since destroyed it."

It seems that you gave this player (the same player that you've given the red car as well) this item, which I've been trying to get rid of... for a while now. Can you people guess where I dropped this item? In the room where lemon still stores modded stuff (have destroyed that stuff, again) (we need a /clear command).

F R A M E R.

The moderators have spoken about consequences regarding lying about a member of the community, such as making false reports. I'm interested in what the others have to say.

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Posted : 13/09/2017 11:23 pm
Fisher
(@fisher)

Hello there!

I see ur doing your name all honor! Raging and salty indeed!

The thing is Kolibob makes very detailed points and i don´t think he´d made that effort of writing a explaination THIS detailed when he was abusing his permissions for shits n giggles.

Lemon if you´re salty and a crybaby for not getting what u want from a new moderator, be it items, vehicles or other stuff, get the fuck out. I mean in all honesty: What the fuck is wrong with you? You get help by him and thats how you thank him afterwards? You should be ashamed of yourself and better apologize for false framing. You shed a bad light on the entire staff with shit like that, especially on the new moderators: Kolibob, Mr.Rawr and me. If you´re jealous about us getting these roles, think about why: We are trusted members beeing here for a long time and beeing reasonable, honest and "good in touch" with the community.

If you try to make our jobs harder with claims like that or just have some shit personal with Kolibob, do it privately.

Oh btw, if this is a frame (and confirmed beeing a frame) i will personally remove your shop and safezone as punishement and you will be under MY surveillance. And boi, you´re not gonna have a good time like dat.

You can of course be honest and say "Hey guys im sorry, especially Kolibob, i framed you because of (reason)." and we be done with it. Still you will taste the aftermath one way or the other for this frame as a "untrusted member" of this community and next to it, your staff application would be off the table 100% just for the fact that you can´t be trusted.

Im not taking sides here, i was reading yours and Kolibobs and he seems to give way to precise information for just beeing a simple permission abuser, while yours sounds very exaguirated (no idea how that words written lel). In case this turns out worse, i guess Nylex won´t have a problem with checking Kolibobs commands in the console.

Cheers, Fisher

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Posted : 13/09/2017 11:48 pm
MrRawr
(@mrrawr)
Noble Member

O shit, the 3 mods just rekt this guy, what what?! 

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Posted : 13/09/2017 11:55 pm
Kolibob
(@kolibob)
Honorable Member

I've decided to take his permission off the Safezone, due to the fact that he has been smuggling off items that were supposed to despawn in a room we've both decided for that purposes, as the latter evidence shows.

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Posted : 14/09/2017 12:01 am
Fisher
(@fisher)

Oh safezone griefing aswell and abusing permissions given by a moderator? You´re digging urself into a DEEP hole.

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Posted : 14/09/2017 12:15 am
TheRagingLemon
(@theraginglemon)
Reputable Member Customer

You know what. I come from a different place of servers. I'm not used to this fucking shit, alright? I honestly don't know what you're allowed to do here as staff, nor what they can't do. The one thing I know, is that, you're denying that you've been spawning in shit and leaving it for people. Now, I don't know if that's fine? Where I came from, it's not. If you should be giving shit to 1 person, then you should be able to give it to other people. I don't give a shit if you trust me or not, just be fair man. Your only giving shit to me because you trust me? What kind of bullshit is that. Your still spawning in shit for your "squad" which is just me. I still find that unfair to others as your only giving me shit that others are not allowed to have. It's funny that only the moderators have replied, I wonder why.

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Topic starter Posted : 14/09/2017 2:18 am
TheRagingLemon
(@theraginglemon)
Reputable Member Customer

Also, I don't have fucking time to write an essay in my defense. I'm going to lose this anyways and probably end up getting banned. As I've said, it's been a good run. I never get sufficient information and the person that always abuses always had a better reputation that me. I've tried this before on a head admin that has been abusing before, and the outcome was the same as this. Everyone that has a high reputation is able to cover up the bad shit they've done while I try to call them out and end up getting gang banged by their associates. 

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Topic starter Posted : 14/09/2017 2:49 am
Kolibob
(@kolibob)
Honorable Member

What have I given you? A medical top, bottom & vest? It's absolutely fair, players have Green Goblin, proper weapons, etc, when've we chosen to RP as medical personnel.

I'm not differentiating players - what I see here is pure idiocracy, you're switching seats to the fact that I've given you stuff? I haven't given you anything that others can't get legitimately, other than the paramedic vest, which isn't even good (it's just red).

We're allowed to use as many commands as we want on ourselves (within limits, albeit small) - we just shouldn't spawn in stuff for the players; I trusted you because you applied for Staff and you had a nice app. 

You're just proving us otherwise on that.

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Posted : 14/09/2017 6:18 am
The Friendly HitMan :D
(@adazahunt)
Honorable Member
Posted by: TheRagingLemon

Also, I don't have fucking time to write an essay in my defense. I'm going to lose this anyways and probably end up getting banned. As I've said, it's been a good run. I never get sufficient information and the person that always abuses always had a better reputation that me. I've tried this before on a head admin that has been abusing before, and the outcome was the same as this. Everyone that has a high reputation is able to cover up the bad shit they've done while I try to call them out and end up getting gang banged by their associates. 

 

   Well I know you did your best to defend yourself its not too late to loose all of your hope its not that we are against you and your opinions against Kolibob its just that we want to do things fair and peaceful we don't want trouble if the staff is abusing his authority u can report him but when u report a staff it would be better if you provide proof and its normal for some players to defend and pick sides and it would be bad if your relationship with him as friends would be destroyed because of this and one more thing kindly respond in a calm and good manner and we will just settle this in a way that everyone will agree with

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Posted : 14/09/2017 7:50 am
Nylex
(@admin)
Illustrious Member Admin

While staff/moderators can feel free to spawn things in for themselves, we'd prefer it if it didn't interrupt other players in the process. I think Kolibob has pretty much closed this case with his defense but I wana thank you Lemon for reporting regardless, your intentions of making the server a better place is appreciated. I'm not sure about the whole shooting people with spawned in vehicles argument, I don't believe you'd have any reason to lie but on the other hand Kolibob would have no reason to do it in the first place and has a pretty good defense for it. So I guess we'll just pretend like that was never said lol. 

Oh and no-one is getting banned haha, like I said I believe your intentions were good, nothing wrong with this. 

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Posted : 14/09/2017 10:29 am
Kolibob
(@kolibob)
Honorable Member
Posted by: Nylex

 

While staff/moderators can feel free to spawn things in for themselves, we'd prefer it if it didn't interrupt other players in the process. I think Kolibob has pretty much closed this case with his defense but I wana thank you Lemon for reporting regardless, your intentions of making the server a better place is appreciated. I'm not sure about the whole shooting people with spawned in vehicles argument, I don't believe you'd have any reason to lie but on the other hand Kolibob would have no reason to do it in the first place and has a pretty good defense for it. So I guess we'll just pretend like that was never said lol. 

Oh and no-one is getting banned haha, like I said I believe your intentions were good, nothing wrong with this. 

   

/lockthread

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Posted : 14/09/2017 1:08 pm
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